Revenue generation discussion

[temi]

First of all Klaas, welcome to UK webmaster world, do you still have link spot on your 25 sites? Iwill lke to buy links on all sites. You can PM me with details if you like.

[temi]

Originally Posted by Old Welsh Guy

You also get an emailing list of businesses with which to market your monthly products of loans telephones etc.

This is a very informative post OWG, to stop it getting burried in follow post I will copy it and turn it to a sticky.

[Paul_KY]

My advice would be, write ad copy, which lets the user sell themselves, rather than be sold. Let it be their idea to buy/signup.

Originally Posted by temi

First of all Klaas, welcome to UK webmaster world, do you still have link spot on your 25 sites? Iwill lke to buy links on all sites. You can PM me with details if you like.

Nah sorry all of those sites aren't online anymore. I had some problems with my host, he just went off and never said a thing anymore, thus my sites were gone aswell. ( didn't have a backup STUPID ME )

Though I do have some great pr sites you can have a link on every page kkportfolio.net, webmasterspalace.com, cityofsolution.com, dsigncenter.com and a few more ( in total 10 sites, a few pr 4 and pr 3 the rest pr 0, but will be good for your pr )( for $40 a month you can have a link on them all if you want )( or just a selection of them, just contact me on klaas_koopman1@hotmail.com.

And I totally agree with OWG, do not start a site to make money ( or atleast do not handle towards it ) just make a site you want to let people know about. Then put the content in, then advertise it, and as soon as you got many hits and stuff, then you could think about making money!

[Paul_KY]

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Some prefer content first, money later, and vise versa. I've seen both methods work successfully.

Sure there are always people that do become succesfull, but it's better IMO to start with ur site just for the site, not for the cash.

[Paul_KY]

Again, there are ways to earn money with your websites, as their are opinions.

[OldWelshGuy]

Yep. Maybe I kind of didn't make myself clear As was demonstrated by the simple bit of maths at the end of my post, my proposed sites are there to make money, and make no doubt about it. I do however have some sites that I run for fun. My rugby forum is very busy, and I have been offered a few grand to run ads on it, but have declined the offer. It is my bolt hole away from the world of business, so if I sold ads it wouldn't feel the same.

What I meant with the comment, don't set out purely with a view to make money, was that often people over look WHY people should use their site. You should when developing ANY business, have clearly set goals for the various elements of success. Online that is new visitors, repeat visitors, overall traffic (after bots removed) enquiries to advertisers (it is YOUR job to ensure your advertisers get a response). And of course, revenue.

What I was saying is that if you are purely focused on the earnings of the site, you are chasing the wrong metric, and the others will suffer. This is not just Internet stuff, this is the basics of any business. You identify the elements needed for success, then set estimates for measurement, then constantly review them. The money normally follows along behind, at a steady stream, then it will hit a point where the snowball gathers pace and everything takes off at once.

As Paul said, there are many ways to earn money on a website. This is just my preferred method, one that suits my skills.

<edited to remove multiple typos >

[Paul_KY]

Well put, OWG.

owg are you like a very smart man? if not, you are great at sounding like one! great post! Ever thought of writing articles?