[KingPin]

I have a very good friend that knows Jill very well so I only know her through my friend. I can't say I know you though OWG (personally I mean) but I have seen you around and know some of your work. Just because I have been around for a long time.

I was at HR when it started, not signed up as a user, just a "lurker". It's only in recent times I have decided to sign up for forums. But as the old adage goes "to many cooks spoil the broth". That was my reason for never signing up to any forums.

All you have to do is take a look at DP, the SEO section and well, it's a joke.

I just wanted to stay in the background and do my thing.

I'm not saying everything is bad about Arron and some of the stuff I read is good, but then everyone has their of day's.

From what I hear the book is "ok", my logic tells me to go to the forums I mentioned rather than spend money, invest the time in reading when you can simply save that money and invest your time in forums/blogs.

The tools Arron provides on his website are second to none, that I can't knock him for, not one bit. I use one or two myself.

I don't see why anyone would want to do keyword research on another marketers site, unless your writing an SEO book and looking to compete against Arron then I can see why they would but other than that I don't see any other reason why you would, unless I'm missing something.

As for having Arron or any other "expert" to compete against, personally, it doesn't phase me but I can see what you mean.

KP